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How are you connecting to the cloud?

When I'm in my garage, my car connects fine to the cloud via my home wifi. I see a lot of cars on the cloud map, how are so many people connecting to the cloud while driving? I know some new, high end cars, come with built in hot spots, but I'm guessing a lot of these aren't relying on that. According to Blackvue, live coverage consumes roughly 250GB/month, so I wanted to dedicate a 3G iPad to the task and keep it in my glovebox, but the service charge alone for that is $90/month, or about $1,100/year, no thanks. So how is everybody doing this?

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    Aschwin Rutgers

    I have a wifi/router in my car on a mobile net. I pay €14.00 for 1 GB a month, and i believe i made a mistake with this.

    By Tmobile in the Netherlands, i can have a second simcard beside my phone subscription and share the internet GB`s.

    You dont do a live coverage 24/7, when you get a push message, you can decide to check real live.

    This takes minutes and less GB`s.

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    Steve Banas

    Thanks for the reply Aschwin. One extremely important takeaway from your comment - you mean if you choose to make your camera share as public, it only streams when someone has chosen to view your camera live? If so, then this starts to make more sense.

     

    -Steve

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    Aschwin Rutgers

    Dear Steve,

     

    I`m not talking about making your camera public, i didnt make it public, because i like to decide what to share.

    This is taken from the Blackvue.com site from Korea.

                 

    Remote Live View (Real time streaming)

    Format D1 (720×480)
    Bitrate 600Kpbs (Kilobits per second)
    1 minute 4.5MB (Megabytes)
    1 hour 270MB (Megabytes)
    24 hours 6.48GB (Gigabytes) 

                                                                                                                                                                               

    These are specs if you use remote live view over the cloud. As you can see 1 minute takes 4.5 MB. If something happens, you get a push message from the Blackvue app when something occurs. When this happen, you go on your phone to the Blackvue over the cloud app, the cam is cloud connected, and i have several options.Saving the image to the cloud for later on, or use live view. Its the small camera icon left under in the app. Now you can see by the camera whats happening. if you have a 2 channel, you can select which camera you want to see.

    Best regards,

    Aschwin

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    Steve Banas

    Thanks again for the response, yes, I was using this chart as the basis of my original post. If you multiply out 6.5 GB x 30, you get about 250GB/mo. So, does anyone know if you make your camera public, is it constantly pushing video to the cloud 24x7, or only on demand, like when someone randomly clicks on your vehicle on the map? This is all I'm trying to find out right now in order to determine what device and plan to use, if any, for supporting the feature.

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    David Bower

    I use a 4G mobile Wi-Fi hotspot from O2, 2Gb data is about £11/m. It has a built in battery that lasts for hours, more than adequate for parking all day. My biggest problem was draining the car battery. I have had to set Power Magic Pro to 12v instead of 12.5v. 12.5v only lasts about 5 hours until it drops below that and switches off.

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    Steve Banas

    David - On average, how much data do you use per month on that O2 device? Is 2 GB typically enough?

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    Aschwin Rutgers

    Dear Steve,

    Explain to me why you want your camera go public? So somebody else can check your dashcam pics?

    Thats not the reason why i have live view. With a free account you can watch 10 minutes a day live at your car, so it takes 10 times 4.5 MB.

    About PMP, i had one,broke down on install, so i removed it, and wired the camera directly to the circuitbraker.

    Must say, i have a Optima yellowtop in the car.;)

    Ow and by the way dont set motion detect on with a pushmessage, you will go crazy of the message`s.

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    Steve Banas

    As to your first question, I enjoy occasionally looking for public cams around the world and watching daily driving through parts of the world I've never been, so I want to offer that same experience for others who want to see what the world looks like in my area, sort of like returning the favor. And thanks for the tip on the other stuff.

    By the way, based on the responses to usage numbers, I just signed up with T-Mobile for the unlimited hot spot that comes with your cell phone commitment. The hot spot is assigned to my iPad mini which will be kept in the car's glove box, and can be used for other things as well. The hot spot plan is only $20/month, and is month by month and can be dropped at any time. I'll give it a try.

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    NP

    I'm using a Huawei 4G (150 mbps) Mobile Hotspot.  In the UK on EE you can get 6GB for 3 months preloaded on "Pay As You Go" SIMs through Amazon for about £18.  I also use the Blackvue B-112 Battery (instead of the Powermagic Pro).  This has two USB outputs, one of which can be used to keep the Mobile Hotspot charged up.

    The Cloud Service depends upon the slowest link in the chain from your vehicle to Blackvue Servers in South Korea and back to your Cloud Viewer.  In the UK, the 4G Mobile Phone service is more reliable in the major cities.  My system struggles with "frequent buffering of video" in other parts of the country.

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    David Bower

    Okay I sent the Huawei hotspot back to O2 it simply refuses to keep charged up by any means other than its own charger. I tried three of them they all have the same fault. I have replaced it with an unlocked TP Link MiFi which I paid about £70 for. This means I can fit any PAYG I want to and top it up as necessary. I am finding the TP Link uses too much data though so I'm investigating that.

    Regarding the power I find the Blackvue battery pack ridiculously expensive at £169 so mine plugs into a USB port I connected to my Power Magic Pro and this works great to keep it powered up, whilst the PMP will switch everything off if voltage drops below 12V.

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    David Bower

    My TP-Link is not leaking data, it's fine, a great solution.

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    Oscar

    David. Can the power magic pro power the camera and your MiFi at the same time?
    I thought the power magic only had one power output . Or are you runnng two separate power Magic’s &

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